SORBS - A bad RBL Black List
Sorbs extorts money for `corrections' to their fraudulent
listing that Berklix will
If your ISP (=mail provider) uses lists from Sorbs, ask them
to dump Sorbs, & get a better competent professional black
list provider, if you ISP refuses, best dump them. Berklix is by far not the only innocent victim of predator Sorbs
- Some email servers import
RBL / DNSBL IP black lists of spammer domains, that list
spammer IP numbers to discard mail from.
Domain Name System-based blackhole lists have suppliers
"questionable or reckless" etc
That their lists may be received by many non paying
`customer' recipients, is not necessarily an index that
they are Good. Best also investigate eg:
- Do they ever notify listed domains theyve been added,
or periodically remind they're still on, to give the innocent a chance to investigate,
refute mistakes, or deal with odd rogue users etc ?
- Do they ever timeout or
revalidate IPs ?
- How good are they at detected malicious false reports
& masquerades ?
- How good will they be when it comes to be your turn
or your mailing associates, to be falsely listed of
spamming by some mistake of the black list provider, or
by malicious false accusation from someone who bears you
or your domain a grudge who files false libel with a
gullible reckless black list provider ? How quick is it
to navigate their web to get a free correction of their
false data if your domain is innocent ?
Sorbs: Views other than from Berklix
Sorbs : the view from Berklix
- Sorbs.Net has for 5 years falsely & libellously listed a Berklix server as a
- Sorbs damaged Innocent Berklix & users.
Sorbs owes all domain owners & users & lists
hosted on the IP for 5 years of false libel &
Why Did Sorbs Libel Innocent Berklix ? Why Do They
Extort A Fee To Fix Their Mistakes ? Will they do you
- Maybe Sorbs fumbled analysis of a masqueraded
- Maybe Sorbs gullibly accepted a malicious lie
without checking, eg from a disgruntled ex Berklix
mail list users too lazy to unsubscribe themself
- Maybe some other malicious person seeing some
mail from a Berklix user, lied to
Sorbs & Sorbs accepted it without question ?
- Maybe someone at Sorbs was tempted to sprinkle in
added random IPs to boost employee productivity &
extort more revenue from Innocent domains for Sorbs ?
Unlikely, but a business model for a criminal, &
there's no assumption of trust for Sorbs perpetrators
after 5 years libel abuse.
- Anything might be possible. Sorbs never reported
to Berklix any
spammer accusation, & Berklix was given no
chance to examine logs, or refute false Sorbs
They don't publish an Impressum or address where to
complain or sue them.
They dont list being a member of a trade ethics body
to complain to.
whois shows: Creation Date: 2002-01-25T08:27:24Z
- Sorbs seeks to extort payment to correct their
own false records, that's a crime.
- Sorbs are not trusworthy. They waste time of the
innocent & extort payment
for false libel.
- Presumably Sorbs may list genuine spam sites too,
but that's insufficient reason to use Sorbs.
- There's other better black list providers than
Frame Grab Proofs:
- That Sorbs deters guilty spammers as well as extort
fees from spammers is irrelevant - Berklix is Innocent, small & non commercial.
Sorbs owes Berklix
for 5 years of damages.
- Sorbs owes the net an apology, a better web site,
better spam analysis, external accountability, &
public logging of spam reports.
- Little chance of that when they can continue to
irresponsibly damage the Innocent
with the guilty, avoid libel damages, & extort
Best instead search for a reputable provider
- SpamHaus https
:// en . wikipedia . org / wiki /
The Berklix servers
have used fixed IPs for decades, no open relay
SMTP, virtually no users, certainly no
spammers, does have postmaster@ & abuse@
etc, & hundreds of users on local lists
live in the city of the server, & many
could vouch the postmaster@ is no skulking
spammer, but is: http://
www . berklix . org /~ jhs / contact / Even
the look of the webs doesn't look like normal
anonymous secretive spammer pits, glance at eg:
- 18.104.22.168 & Berklix has for
decades carried free
mail lists (truly really free, no ads, no
harvesting etc, unlike fake only nominally free
lists from commercial providers).
(Previously a few removed list members on a long
since removed list refused to use unsubscribe
mechanisms on majordomo then mailman,
& a very few maliciously lazy & brain
dead incompetents falsely reported the whole list
server to other Black Hole Lists operators,
(perhaps it was easier for lazy fools with a
click & fumble mouse interface than learning
to email in Ascii eg unsubscribe gea &
then Ascii mail the confirm key ?) So it's
occasionally before been needed to get malicious
false spam reports cleared, thus some experience
with other RBL clearance sites, but they weren't
crass greedy irresponsible fakes like Sorbs.
2022-09-10: RBL Scanner Post
a tool to periodically run, to automatically scan
with a list of RBL providers, whether any RBL has
silently listed your domain names or numbers: