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Berklix.Org - Mail Lists Service - By Mailman

This Is: http://www.berklix.org/berklix/mailman/
( = http://www.berklix.org/~jhs/berklix/mailman/ )

SERVER FOR NORMAL USERS
http://mailman.berklix.org/mailman/listinfo

Lists Moved From Majordomo Aug. & Sept. 2016

INDEX

Help for normal subscribers

Berklix Lists - Tips

  • Rejects & Silent Discards

    • All lists silently discard mail from all non members.
      • Join a list before writing
      • Avoids spam,
      • Avoids wasting list owners time,
      • Avoids delay waiting for a moderator,
      • Avoids list members only receiving what an unwanted moderator = censor might otherwise approve.
    • Lazy clueless requests posted to a whole list, asking someone to unsubscribe you - are silently discarded. Do It Yourself ! See Links in headers & footers.
    • If you write to a list & its not broadcast, it is Never because it was moderated or censored. Berklix lists have no moderators = censors. You either never had a right to write that list, or maybe you wrote with a From: header that does not match your list membership.
  • List Types:

    • Many lists are announcement only, (only a subset are identified as LISTNAME-announce@) unless you are an organiser, do not write to them, your reply would be automatically discarded or rejected, unseen by any human except you.
    • Many lists have an adjacent organisers list LISTNAME-org@ you can write to, only if you are a member of LISTNAME@
    • A few lists have LISTNAME-chat@, unmoderated, writable by all members of LISTNAME-chat@. If the noise gets too much, unsubscribe the LISTNAME-chat@ & just stay on LISTNAME[-announce]@ list.
    • Technical discussion lists are open to all members. (generally just the non tech lists are restricted to announce only, because of the much higher percentage of incompetents, & clueless- to- lists people on some non tech. sports & social lists)
  • Passwords

    • You don't need to remember passwords for each list: (You don't even need to remember a single passwords, though it helps if you do).
    • You can forget passwords if you want: You can go to a page under http:// mailman. berklix. org/ mailman/ listinfo, type in your mail address Mailman uses to mail to you (see that in your headers), & click "Remind"
    • When you join a list (or were joined automatically by bulk import from the previous Majordomo equivalent list) Mailman automatically assigns you a different password for each list (unless you tell it otherwise).
    • You can change your password for any list to whatever you want, to replace the random one you were give.
    • To change password, for an example list called Test:
      Go to http://mailman.berklix.org/mailman/listinfo/test scroll down to end section "Test Subscribers" type your email address in box to left of "Unsubscribe or edit options" (Don't worry it wont unsubscribe you unless you tell it to later) go down the bottom of a page such as http:// mailman. berklix. org/ mailman/ options/ test to "Change Your Password" where you can also click "Change globally."
  • Lost Mail & Missed Postings
    • If you think you may have missed postings, check the archives.
    • If you posted & you didn't get a copy, check the archives.
    • If a subscriber didn't receive your posting, tell him/her to check the archives. once Subscriber has the list posting, he & his provider can analyse body of mail to see if his/her anti spam filter might have blocked it.
    • To test if you can send to lists Do Not Send To A Normal List, Instead join http:// mailman. berklix. org/ mailman/ listinfo/ test
    • If you make postings to test@ Berklix & you can see them in Berklix archive, then maybe you or your provider are blocking Berklix, or possibly you asserted the NoMail attribute on your subscription.
      (Nomail is something no one turns on, except people who have multiple addresses registered with robot (to allow sending from multiple addresses) while they have all but one marked "Nomail" to avoid receiving multiple copies from list).
    • If in doubt, Sender should also ask failing Subscriber to also join test@ so the two of you can run test transmissions without disturbing normal list memberships.
    • Please Do not ask list owner, as I think Mailman doesn't keep those logs (not had time to check yet).
    • Please Do not ask system administrator as Very Busy, & Sendmail logs have masses of spam rejects to wade through, only worth doing for serious domain to domain size problems, not for individual subscriptions please.

Berklix Lists - Conditions & Restrictions

Permanent Conditions

  • Limitations are also covered on Lists Page, the 2 pages need a text merge
  • Smaller & technical lists are open to all members to post. No moderators, no censors.
  • Larger non technical lists are announcements only by organisers, since lazy & incompetent people used to post change requests to lists, instead of to robot.
  • Anonymous names not allowed. We don't need trolls posting provocations as in forums.
  • Any mail to Any list, with a From: address that is not an exact match for a member of that list, is Silently Automatically Discarded, unseen by Any human including you. Why:
    It's Self Defence. : The internet is now infested by spammers masquerading as others. Human list owners, mail list robot owners & mail server owners here are not prepared to waste their unpaid free time to solve extra problems that arise from spammers, clueless & even a few malicious mailing where they should not.

    Yes some lists on some domains, people volunteer to be `moderators', but moderator can equal censor, so can be perceived to degrade list freedom. (Amazing that some moderators elsewhere like force list members to trust them: Least trust those who most want to be a moderator/ censor!). Result here of not allowing non members to post, is freedom from censorship for subscribed members smiley face icon

  • If you are a member of a list, & your posts are not appearing on list, its your problem to examine your incoming list mail, examine your headers, & see who the list robot send to, likely you have sent from a new address, & robot still has you listed at your old address.
  • Fix your issues yourself, sorry, the list owners at Berklix have no time to help.
  • Join test@ list to send yourself diagnostic tests. Do Not send test posts to live normal lists!
  • Enclosure Formats:
    Use publicly defined non proprietary formats. The mail lists uses computers & net connectivity supplied to promote BSD & other free public standard software. Do not use them to post or advertise inimicable proprietary formats promoted by monopolists, eg do Not post Microsoft .Doc etc)

Temporary Restrictions Following import of all lists from Majordomo to Mailman.

  • List.Info files from Majordomo are not yet merged into mailman list pages, possibly might go in mailman listinfo pages ?
  • List.Intro files not yet imported from Majordomo ... & where to ? some are Long -possibly to be merged to locked per list web pages ?
  • There is not yet automatic live service backup of functionality on a server cluster (like Berklix used to have with Majordomo).
    (Then list names may revert back from eg LIST@mailman.berklix.org to LIST@lists.berklix.org)
  • There is data backup of lists & archives, automatically to spare server, + intermittently manually to secondary backup, off the internet.
  • The archives do not contain old archives from Majordomo era lists. Maybe later, if it seems worth it.

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Below Here Not For Normal Users
Technical Features, Only For Administrators


Software

Features

  • Un-subscriptions now easy via web, not just via mail.
  • Preferences setting via web, per user & list.
  • English, Dutch French, German, Spanish, etc responses.
  • Automatic timeouts & finally un-subscriptions save administrator time on repeated bounces
  • A nasty killer loop if you don't patch it out.

Hosting

Servers For Comparisons

Notes

  • cd /usr/local/mailman/bin; ls
    FreeBSD-post-install add_members arch b4b5-archfix change_pw check_db check_perms cleanarch clone_member config_list convert.py convert.pyc discard dumpdb export.py export.pyc find_member fix_url.py fix_url.pyc genaliases inject list_admins list_lists list_members list_owners mailmanctl mmsitepass msgfmt.py msgfmt.pyc newlist paths.py paths.pyc qrunner rb-archfix remove_members reset_pw.py reset_pw.pyc rmlist show_qfiles sync_members transcheck unshunt update version withlist
  • cd /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin; ls
    admin admindb confirm create edithtml listinfo options private rmlist roster subscribe
  • cd /usr/local/mailman/logs; ls -ltr
    bounce error mischief post qrunner smtp smtp-failure subscribe vette
  • cd /usr/local/etc/rc.d; ./mailman stop; ./mailman start # Fixes some config errors.
    mailmanctl stop; mailmanctl start
  • /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py
  • /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py

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