Subject: No Subscription Requests To Me/Us, Use The Free Robot ! From: Sub@Lists Sender: Sub@Lists Standard Reply: http://www.berklix.org/jhs/std/mailman.txt See Also: http://mailman.berklix.org/mailman/listinfo http://www.berklix.org/berklix/lists/ http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/std/no_free_time.txt http://www.berklix.org/jhs/std/subscribe.txt You mailed a subscribe or unsubscribe request to a wrong address, to a human, to me, us, or a list of humans. Wrong! You need to & Must use the robot ! If you are already using the robot, for help & tips to use it more successfully, scroll down below this indented section. You Must Use The Robot, You Have No Choice, I/We Will Not Do It For You Most [un]subscribe requests to humans are not even seen, they are auto discarded as junk. Yours will also be ignored, as would future similar requests. You _Must_ Use The Free Robot The new better free robot is http://www.berklix.org/berklix/lists/ No human has interest doing your [un]subscription work for you. I & other organisers have zero free time for a thousand people's personal list change requests. Use The Free Robot. Read header & footer of every list posting, for instructions. You must do your own [un]subscribes Yourself, Nothing changes otherwise. Use the robot, it never fails (despite numerous false claims from lazy people that it does not work, which were proven false Every time, & completely abused & exhausted the patience of this author). I/We do not have time to waste supporting hundreds of lazy people on many lists, either try [again] & learn or buy a more intelligent friend/colleague a beer/ coffee/ cake to sit on your computer & help you if you are lazy or incapable of learning). (No I/we don't want free beer etc, I/we just want to keep our time free, not wasted.) Do Not Ask Event Announcers To Do Your Work: It wastes their time, achieves Nothing for you, & annoys/ demotivates them from organising events, which would penalise hundreds of others on lists. Event announcers are Not responsible, can not control the list robot, sometimes not skilled to advise how You must do your own list [un]subscriptions; Do not abuse event announcers free work announcing events & running the infrastructure to support lists & events you have benefitted from. Harsh action may be taken to expose any who repeatedly abuse event announcers by wasting their time. Do your subscription changes yourself via the free robot: Too Dumb To Learn ? Don't believe it of yourself ! It's claimed & disproved too often ;-) Try several times more, record your commands & results, think each time & analyse. Usually that ends up in success, making the person prove to him/her self he/she is brighter than he/she thought. The robot is simple, if you bother to _think_. For Non Technologists: Each week Non technologists use the robot successfully, its not hard. You just need to try it a few times & Think & Analyse. Too Lazy To Do It Yourself ? Your problem, not mine or ours. Stay on or off the list[s] you want off from or on to. Your problem not ours. We don't care. Or pay the Red Cross a donation, forward the receipt & we may then waste our time helping you, After you pay them, Not before. Too Busy ? No Time To Learn ? This robot owner & list-owner is _Also_ a busy professional & _also_ has no time, & is/ was additionally plagued by people like you seeking to waste his time, so learn the free robot, or Pay someone else to drive your email for you if you are so lazy or incompetent. Claiming The Robot Doesn't Work Properly ? Wrong ! Such claims were often made, & Always proven false, always the human was too lazy, sometimes clueless, not bothering to Think. It's a mature well tested robot. It never fails ! Want To Demand Help Free Of Charge? Wrong ! - Very Wrong ! You received free service while you wanted to be on list[s]. You were not advertised at. Your name was not sold to anyone, You did not pay for free service. No one else paid us to serve you. We gained no benefit from you on list. We incurred costs & trouble, & spent time, providing the free service. We still provide the free robot service to [un]subscribe We owe you Nothing. You owe us: - Not to waste our time. - To take the time to learn to do your [un]subscribe work. We have no free time to waste. Use the free robot. Every list posting header & footer tells how. Try. Think. Learn. Want To Bitch ? It will Not help you. Any response may annoy you further, & may harm you, parading you as lazy/ foolish/ mean, perhaps to a wider audience than you want (as a deterrent to others Not to ask), as it's essential people (both you & others) are forced to realise: You have No Option but to learn to Do Your Own Work Yourself. Even when it might be less work for us to [un]subscribe you manually, we will Not do your work for you, as lazy people used to tell their friends, & it snowballed. I/We do not owe you. You owe me/us your time to go learn to use the robot ! Don't waste your time, Go Learn ! For Non Technologists: Each week Non technologists use the robot successfully, its not hard. You just need to try it a few times & Think & Analyse. For Busy Professionals Who Don't Have Time To Learn: This lists owner is _Also_ a busy professional & _also_ has no time, & is/ was additionally plagued by people like you seeking to waste his time, so learn the free robot, else Pay someone money, food or drink to drive your email for you if you are so busy, lazy or incompetent. For Logical Professionals, eg computer programmers, sys. admins, consultants / engineers / scientists etc. They virtually never complain, occasionally they ask questions about syntax & formats (that's usually covered on web pages) They learn quickly & succeed after a few tries or less. As non technologists also use the robot successfully, I have less than sympathy for the occasional waster who claim to be a programmer, who aggressively bitches & demands human help, & proves himself to be a technical incompetent, a disgrace to the profession, & worthy of exposure. I'm Not Unhelpful But I Am Overloaded & Too Busy: Some, particularly the bone idle who refuse to learn to do their own subscriptions with free robot & who demand to waste my time, have accused me of being un-helpful. They just try to waste my time. If I was unhelpful, I'd not have written all my standard replies at http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/std/ & my numerous web help pages, nor provided my public servers & facilities & organise all the events I do at http://www.berklix.org - All Unpaid. I give far more time free than I should, but still I get burdened with requests that amount to "Just do me a favour and waste your time for me ..." & "Surely you can't be That busy", & "I'm too lazy/ busy/ dumb myself" & " I'll [try to] waste Your time, rather spend My time learning myself" & the worst: "Now you've done it for me, I'll tell an increasing circle of friends, & they'll also similarly avalanche time wasting requests on you". Don't Bother To Accuse Me Of Being Elitist / Intolerant / Whatever Some fools tried, worthless ingrates after all the free time I give to keeping Berklix servers & groups & lists & events running for all. I no longer usually even reply, I just add abusers & or phrases to my spam filter, & let lazy people rot. 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